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hlieberman | 10 months ago

It’s not just the UK who has standardized on these language; the U.S. intelligence community also has a list of required terminology to use for different confidence levels and different likelihoods — and distinguishing between them. It’s all laid out in ICD-203, publicly available at https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICD/ICD-203.pdf

I’ve found it very helpful in the same vein as RFC 2119 terminology (MUST, SHOULD, MAY, etc.); when you need your meanings to be understood by a counterparty and can agree on a common language to use.

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bo1024|10 months ago

Interesting. This terminology really makes no sense without more shared context, in my view. For example, I would not describe something that happens to me every month as a "remote possibility". Yet for a 3% chance event, repeated every day, monthly occurrences are what we expect. Similarly, someone who describes events as "nearly certain" would surely be embarrassed when one of the first 20 fails to happen, no?

randallsquared|10 months ago

A 1-in-a-million chance seems quite remote, yet if you are rolling the dice once a millisecond...

This applies to any repeated chance, so it probably doesn't need to be called out again when translating odds to verbal language.

handsclean|9 months ago

The terms aren’t causing this confusion, it’s that you’re applying them to less specific subjects, in particular omitting periods. “3% chance per day” makes sense, “remote chance on any particular day” makes sense, “remote chance” does not make sense, “3% chance” does not make sense. You’d also need to say “nearly certain over any 30 day period”, though if the odds are 3%/day then it’s only (just into) probable, not nearly certain—60%. It’d have to be 10%/day (not a remote chance, but highly improbable) to be nearly certain (96%) over 30 days.

voidUpdate|9 months ago

If something happens to you every month, that's a certainty. If it has a 3% chance to happen to you on any given day, its a remote possibility that it will happen to you on any given day