[TobTobXX]

Yes! Sounds like a dream. My value isn't determined by some economic system, but rather by myself. There is so much to do when you don't have to work. Of course, this assumes we actually get to UBI first, and it doesn't create widespread poverty. But even if humanity will have to go through widespread poverty, we'd porbably come out with UBI on the other side (minus a few hundred millions starved).

There's so much to do, explore and learn. The prospect of AI stealing my job is only scary because my income depends on this job.

[voidspark]

> There's so much to do, explore and learn.

Hobbies, hanging out with friends, reading, etc. That's basically it.

Probably no international travel.

It will be like a simple retirement on a low income, because in a socialist system the resources must be rationed.

This will drive a lot of young ambitious people to insanity. Nothing meaningful for them to achieve. No purpose. Drug use, debauchery, depression, violence, degeneracy, gangs.

It will be a true idiocracy. No Darwinian selection pressures, unless the system enforces eugenics and population control.

[TobTobXX]

> Hobbies, hanging out with friends, reading, etc. That's basically it. > It will be like a simple retirement on a low income [...].

Yes, like retirement but without the old age. Right now I'm studying, so I do live on a very low income. But still, there are so many interesting things! For example, I'm trying to design a vacuum pump to 1mbar to be made of mostly 3d printed parts. Do vacuum pumps exist and can I buy them? Absolutely. But is it still fun to do the whole designing process? You bet. And I can't even start explaining all the things I'm learning.

> This will drive a lot of young ambitious people to insanity.

I teach teenagers in the age where they have to choose their profession. The ones going insane will be the unambitious people, those who just stay on TikTok all day and go to work because what else would they do? The ambitious will always have ideas and projects. And they won't mind creating something that already exists, just because they like the process of it.

We already see this with generative AI. Even though you could generate most of the images you'd want already, people still enjoy the process of painting or photographing. Humans are made to be creative and take pleasure from it, even if it is not economically valuable.

Hell, this is Hacker News. Hacking (in its original sense) was about creativity and problem-solving. Not because it will make you money, but because it was interesting and fun.

[pixelbro]

Wait, wait, wait. Our society's gonna fall apart due to a lack of Darwinian selection pressure? What do you think we're selecting for right now?

Seems to me like our culture treats both survival and reproduction as an inalienable right. Most people would go so far as to say everyone deserves love, "there's a lid for every pot".

[knowaveragejoe]

> This will drive a lot of young ambitious people to insanity. Nothing meaningful for them to achieve.

Maybe, if the only flavor of ambition you're aware of is that of SV types. Plenty of people have found achievement and meaning before and alongside the digital revolution world.