top | item 43927146

(no title)

muth02446 | 9 months ago

I view nuclear as a prudent diversification of energy sources: What happens if some supervolcano erupts, and because of the ashes significantly less sunlight reaches the surface of the earth. Presumably, there will also be less wind then.

discuss

order

seatac76|9 months ago

If that is your concern, then the thing to worry about is dramatic loss in food production before energy becomes an issue.

raron|9 months ago

Plats survive some time (days) without light. If there is not enough backup power source (peaker gas plats, not nuclear though) the grid could quickly collapse causing a continent-wide blackout from what it would be really hard and it would take a long time to bring the grid up. Cities would be uninhabitable within a few days (no water, not sewage processing, no heating).

looofooo0|9 months ago

we can make food from oil, gas and other hydrocarbons.

biophysboy|9 months ago

I think we would have a harder time finding food and clean water in this scenario

delusional|9 months ago

Even on a dead earth the AI must consume and indescribable amount of power.

cryptonector|9 months ago

Shades of Isaac Asimov's The Last Question.

Plot twist: the computer's last act at the end of The Last Question was just an LLM's hallucination.

YokoZar|9 months ago

If your worry is volcanoes, geothermal power can remove energy from them before they explode. On a sufficient scale they could even prevent them.

croes|9 months ago

Are we playing What-if?

What if hackers/terrorist attack the power plants?

What if the operating companies values profit over security?

What if an earthquake or Tsunami hits nuclear power plant?

throwaway2037|9 months ago

Am I stupid or naive to ask:

    > What if hackers/terrorist attack the power plants?
Are most power plants in 2025 air-gapped? I assume yes.

sschueller|9 months ago

Even without I think wind will become too expensive eventually to make it worth while. Especially when solar gets more efficient and cheaper.

Wind has down sides like moving parts and requiring giant concrete poors. Birds strikes, noise as well as ground vibration are also issues.

bhelkey|9 months ago

> Wind has down sides like ...Birds strikes

Many birds die as a result of human activity. In the US, the leading cause of these deaths is cats [1]. Cats cause four times more bird deaths than the next anthropogenic cause of death, flying into windows.

Cats cause ~1000x more bird deaths than collisions with wind turbines.

[1] https://www.statista.com/chart/15195/wind-turbines-are-not-k...

Ylpertnodi|9 months ago

>Birds strikes...are also issues.

Unless you're vegetarian, or vegan, how so?

aziaziazi|9 months ago

You can add (no) recycling of huge composite balades.

frollogaston|9 months ago

It's not even a what-if, it's just cheaper than solar for what you get. Especially compared to residential solar, which is also quite dangerous.

brrwind|9 months ago

How is residential solar dangerous?