[fiedzia]

> but neither Go or C# have issues with dependency hell like Rust or even more JavaScript, because they have exceptional std libs

They also have a lot narrower scope of use, which means it is easier to create stdlib usable for most people. You can't do it with more generic language.

[pjmlp]

I would say C# gets used almost everything at Microsoft between GUIs, backends, DirectX tooling (new PIX UI, Managed DirectX and XNA back in Creative Arcade days), Azure,..., alongside C++, and even if Microsoft <3 Rust, in much bigger numbers.

[djfivyvusn]

I didn't understand the embedded systems argument. Just because a standard lib is large doesn't mean it all ends up in the compilation target.

[kbolino]

Indeed, it has no bearing on binary size at all, because none of it will be included. If you are coming from the perspective where the standard library is entirely unusable to begin with, then improving the standard library is irrelevant at best. It also likely means that at least some time and effort will be taken away from improving the things that you can use to be spent on improving a bunch of things that you can't use.

I feel like this is an organizational problem much more than a technical one, though. Rust can be different things to different people, without necessarily forcing one group to compromise overmuch. But some tension is probably inevitable.