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throwaway519 | 9 months ago

Teams.

Chat is not chat. Office Communicator and Skype for Business were chat apps. Teams is not. Not on desktop and doubly not on mobile.

Collaborative sites. SharePoint was a collaborative workspace. Teams' schizophrenic frankenstein of uninteroperable 'apps' from 'Lists' unaware of members of a Team to 3rd party *ware that has regressed in function, collaboration and interoperability from SharePoint so much a two decade old install of Joomla does a better job, is not.

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ukoki|9 months ago

Two additions:

* Teams wanting to be a viewer for all kinds of filetypes. Why the hell would I want to view a Powerpoint presentation in Teams? What if I want to chat about the presentation, while viewing the presentation?

* Clipboard injection attacks. Who in the history of the humanity ever thought prefixing "[2:10 PM] Kimble, Richard:" into the URL/API key/thing-you-want-to-copy a colleague just sent you was a good idea? Yes I know you can manually highlight the text and copy, but you're forcing me to do intricate mouse movements that take time, dozens of times a day. I just want to triple-click, cmd+c, alt+tab, cmd+p

chrismeller|9 months ago

The UI is also just… awful. It gets so confused about what is read and what isn’t. Muting a channel doesn’t really work the way you would expect. Scrolling through messages suddenly just stops and waits 30 seconds to load the next “page”. Even reading through JIRA updates in Teams is hard because the UI is so bland and blank it’s tough to distinguish between the individual updates, but in Slack I have no problem.

Oh, and of course there are three different ways to add a code snippet now, and all three absolutely suck. In Slack there is one, and it just f’ing works.

Teams is free because no one would ever pay for it.

aborsy|9 months ago

Also, phone calls in Skype are no longer available (unless you subscribe to a business plan and I guess as well a Phone Plan).

Contacts became People and it’s not straightforward how to add one in iOS at least.

Imanari|9 months ago

How is chat not chat?

szszrk|9 months ago

I guess that OP is referring to teams having this builettin-board style posts as a default. You post a post and others can react and comment. Which works like a mashup of old school forum and chat. It breaks chronology as newest updates are not on bottom or top.

It was even called teams. So teams had a special use section called... teams. They recently changed the logic. Chats and teams are in the same place, but the rest is still a thing.

I don't think there is a way to notify a chat. Like on slack or zoom or whatever. You can make a webhook to teams (ekhm, the post board thing), but not a chat. So you basically can't use Teams to make many small notifications because you just can't show them next to each other - it's always a big post.

My favorite "feature" of teams is the missclicks. If you use it folded, when chat list (or teams list...) autohides, some parts of the list takes to the chat you want, but some...click the element that was beneath whatever you clicked.

So you wanted to change a chat to some 1:1 with a friend, but you clicked some OneNote in a group chat.