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thethethethe | 9 months ago

Democratic control of production. See the mondragon corporation for an imperfect but interesting example.

Strong unions are another alternative to totalitarian control of companies. Not ideal, but there are plenty of examples throughout history.

I'm not claiming these alternatives are better or worse, I'm just pointing out that other systems are possible and already exist.

Fwiw, whenever my team has done democratic planning it has always led to bad outcomes

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econ|9 months ago

I read the mondragon corporation works according to Ica.

https://ica.coop

One member one vote doesn't seem very imaginative.

Compared to a dictator a focused team effort will have better results but a set of people who don't care or have an overly limited grasp of the topic won't do well. This probably doesn't matter to much if things are going well.

I fool around with the concept of department specific voting certificates with each component of the department written into its own "law" that one can vote yes/no and remove on. Each cert adding weight to the vote. People writing the rules are elected by the same mechanic. To activate a rule or board member it needs 55% "yes" to deactivate it needs 55% "no" and to remove it needs 65%.

One can participate in all departments and each certificate comes with a small pay raise.

Herring|9 months ago

Better anti-monopoly enforcement, better worker-rights regulations, better taxation schemes for redistribution, better healthcare etc. Even stuff you wouldn't think about like free college or good Singapore-style public housing reduces economic pressure on workers, which reduces companies' leverage.

econ|9 months ago

Interesting, yes employee maintenance cost like healthcare and specially housing hurts the economy magnificently. That said, those things only make the dictatorship model more palatable. I want a system to compete with it and kill it.