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raptorfactor | 9 months ago

This is cursed:

https://github.com/es3n1n/defendnot/blob/master/defendnot-lo...

If you're curious what's actually going on there:

https://github.com/es3n1n/defendnot/blob/master/cxx-shared/s...

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chii|9 months ago

can someone well versed in explaining CPP magic explain what is going on and why it is cursed?

quietbritishjim|9 months ago

We're starting with this code:

   defer->void { CoUninitialize(); };
Using the macros in the second linked file, this expands to:

   auto _defer_instance_1234 = Defer{} % [&]()->void { CoUninitialize(); };
* The 1234 is whatever the line number is, which makes the variable name unique.

* auto means infer the type of this local variable from the expression after the =.

* Defer{} means default construct a Defer instance. Defer is an empty type, but it allows the % following it to call a specific function because...

* Defer has an overloaded operator%. It's a template function, which takes a callable object (type is the template parameter Callable) and returns a DeferHolder<Callable> instance.

* [&]()->void { /*code here*/ }; is C++ syntax for a lambda function that captures any variables it uses by address (that's the [&] bit), takes no parameters (that's the () bit) and returns nothing (that's the ->void bit). The code goes in braces.

* DeferHolder calls the function it holds when it is destroyed.

It's subjective but some (including me!) would say it's cursed because it's using a macro to make something that almost looks like C++ syntax but isn't quite. I'm pretty confident with C++ but I had no idea what was going on at first (except, "surely this is using macros somehow ... right?"). [Edit: After some thought, I think the most confusing aspect is that defer->void looks like a method call through an object pointer rather than a trailing return type.]

I'd say it would be better to just be honest about its macroness, and also just do the extra typing of the [&] each time so the syntax of the lambda is all together. (You could then also simplify the implementation.) You end up with something like this:

   DEFER([&]()->void { CoUninitialize(); });
Or if you go all in with no args lambda, you could shorten it to:

   DEFER({ CoUninitialize(); });

aa-jv|9 months ago

This is a class which implements a 'defer' mechanism, similar to Go and Javascript constructs, which do the same thing - delay execution of the given block until the current block scope is exited. Its pretty clever, actually, and quite useful.

I personally don't find it that cursed, but for many old C++ heads this may be an overwhelming smell - adding a class to implement what should be a language feature may tweak some folks' ideology a bit too far.

eru|9 months ago

C++ sort-of guarantees that your objects' destructors will be called when they go out of scope.

So you can abuse this mechanic to 'register' things to be executed at the end of the current scope, almost no matter how you exit the current scope.

es3n1n|9 months ago

yeah sorry i didnt feel like implementing my own RAII stuff for all the COM thingies due to time constraints. it will be changed in the next update though

junon|9 months ago

Honestly if this isn't part of a public API this isn't very cursed in terms of C++, especially if you have a lot of one-off cleanup operations.

I think the only bit I don't like personally is the syntax. I normally implement defer as a macro to keep things clean. If done correctly it can look like a keyword: `defer []{ something(); };`.

Asooka|9 months ago

Why did you write it with two structs though? You could do

    #define defer(body) DeferHolder COMMON_CAT(_defer_instance, __LINE__) {([&]()->void body)};
and call it as

    defer({
        function body here;
    });
Which looks much nicer. The preprocessor treats balanced curlies as one single token regardless of how many lines it spans, precisely to enable this usage.

fc417fc802|9 months ago

What's cursed about this? I use this pattern all over in my code although the signature at the callsite looks a bit different (personal preference).

D (for example) has the concept of statements that trigger at end of scope built into the language.

drabbiticus|9 months ago

Code is a way you treat your coworkers - Michael Feather, https://x.com/mfeathers/status/1031176879577780224

TL;DR, not AI

The code defers a function call until the point in time that an object goes out of scope. The implementation uses C macros to create a more succinct syntax that omits parts of the necessary C lambda/unnamed function definition and to create a unique variable name for managing the deferred function call. However, the resulting syntax eschews the common convention of using UPPER CASE to denote C macros, and instead appears similar at first glance to a function call from an object pointer.

This can cause confusion if one is not familiar with this pattern and expects macros to be communicated differently. Some commenters say this is common enough, or useful enough to them, to be considered almost idiomatic in some contexts.

For technical explanation, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43959403#43960905 provides a useful breakdown of how the macro works.