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edejong | 9 months ago

Because we want to run more than just Home Assistant on the same OS? Because traditionally OS and application layers were separated? Because we trust mature Linux distros more when it comes to LTS and security patches? Because we already know our way around Debian/Ubuntu/Nix/etc.?

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theK|9 months ago

Absolutely this. Once you get into the game of running apps at home with certain quality assumptions you end up having to bolt on various things (VPN, DNS, log aggregation etc) that are better wrapped around the application instead of having them run within it. And having an AppOS typically just gets in the way of all that plus what edejong said that you already know how to do it on the typical production OSes and learning to do it for every AppOS is just cumbersome.

SparkyMcUnicorn|9 months ago

Proxmox adds very little overhead. I'm running dozens of things alongside HAOS.

The OS is the path of least resistance and gives you the best experience for low maintenance.

https://community-scripts.github.io/ProxmoxVE/scripts?id=hao...

Denvercoder9|9 months ago

> Proxmox adds very little overhead.

It's still running a second kernel and entire userspace stack. In my world that's not "very little overhead".

chneu|9 months ago

I'm also running dozens of things alongside HA and I don't have to use proxmox.

It's not hard to run HA in unsupported mode. The only real difference is an annoying reminder that you're unsupported. Everything else works, including plugins/add-ons.

I've run HA a bunch of ways. It doesn't really matter all that much. Use HACS to fill any gaps.

ramy_d|9 months ago

Seconded. My home server does many things, one of which is homeassistant.

lhamil64|9 months ago

I used to use Home Assistant via Docker, but I've since switched to Proxmox with HAOS in a VM and a second Debian VM for everything else. My main reason for this is that it seems like the more supported scenario. For example, when the Voice Assistant stuff first came out the setup was only really documented via HAOS add-ons. I managed to get it working with standalone Docker containers but it was a pain to figure out. It really is simpler to just use HAOS IMO.

goodpoint|9 months ago

> we trust mature Linux distros more when it comes to LTS and security patches

This. If I have to trust some huge container or custom OS where is the benefit of open source?