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trust_bt_verify | 9 months ago

Can you elaborate on how feelings about a subject and intellectual curiosity are mutually exclusive in your world view?

This is an article about a conservative tech company producing an AI that pushes their conservative talking points. The only common trait in these so called ‘low quality’ threads that the HN staff feel the _need_ to call out is that conservative look really bad. The tech is still just as interesting to discuss.

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tomhow|9 months ago

Dang wrote about this general issue a few months ago:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42992992

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42996035

To me this is the most significant point:

What happens in flamewars is that when people encounter material they strongly disagree with, these systems get activated and rapidly produce aggressive and defensive responses that have to do with self-protection, and nothing to do with thoughtful consideration of the material, things one might learn, points where one might be wrong, curiosity, playful interaction, and so on. When survival is at stake there is no time or space for the latter sorts of reactions. But it's the latter that we want on HN—they're what the site is for.

I have my own experience over several years undertaking various forms of subconscious work, and from that experience have become very aware of the way emotional reactivity and sympathetic nervous system activation are antithetical to curious, reflective exploration of topics.

The evidence can be seen right here in this thread: how many insightful, reflective, curious comments are there in the entire thread? How many commenters are even attempting to comment in that style, or favour that style of cognitive processing of the topic?

trust_bt_verify|9 months ago

I guess you are right, this thread is filled with low effort, emotional posts which clearly illuminate biased views. [0] Hopefully some one with years of experience in ‘forum talk’ will be able to realign this misguided soul. Until then, let’s flag anything that makes Elon look bad so we never have to talk about it.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44009199