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victorNicollet | 9 months ago

I have seen the similar assertion "some of the water molecules you drank today were once part of a dinosaur", which is false because water molecules do not last very long when in liquid phase (they continuously swap protons, turning into hydronium ions and back).

The O-O and N-N bonds are much stronger than H-O bonds, but there are still atmospheric processes that can break them. For instance, O2 undergoes photodissociation under ultraviolet light and recombines into O3 ozone, and N2 likely also undergoes photodissociation. And obviously, the fact that living beings breathe O2...

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BurningFrog|9 months ago

Photosynthesis breaks up CO₂ and H₂O molecules to make O₂ and C₆H₁₂O₆ (glucose).

I don't know how often the average water CO₂/H₂O molecule gets dismantled this way, but there can't be many left since 44 BC.

victorNicollet|9 months ago

The atmosphere is estimated to have ~830PgC worth of CO₂, and plants are estimated to photosynthesize ~120PgC worth of CO₂ every year, so a given molecule would have 14% chance to be broken down in a year. The probability to survive for 2000 years would be around 1e-60.

Of course, CO₂ contents of the atmosphere have varied over the last 2000 years, and not all CO₂ is produced into or consumed from the atmosphere (it can be dissolved in surface water, etc).

EDIT: since there's much more O₂ than CO₂ in the atmosphere, a given O₂ molecule has a 8% chance to not be broken down by respiration over 2000 years.

satvikpendem|9 months ago

People should instead say atoms, not molecules. Or maybe even say quarks.

raattgift|9 months ago

Why quarks? There are untold bazillions of those inside each proton, and there's no quark conservation law (rather than conservation of (for example) isospin and strangeness, but only under electromagnetism not under weak interactions, so quark counts get furiously complex in bigger nuclei).

https://profmattstrassler.com/articles-and-posts/largehadron...

For a single proton, though, one always measures (with available measurement technology) a small excess of quarks: two excess up quarks and one excess down quark. That the valence quark model of hadrons works is weird. Who ordered that?

The excess quarks are not "the same" quarks every time you probe your carefully selected and isolated and cold sample proton. Indeed, today's valence quarks in your pet proton are not guaranteed to exist tomorrow, even if the proton stays trapped -- particle creation and annihilation are furious inside, and there are all sorts of other disturbances of quarks that go on in there.

Why atoms? While much calmer, there's still plenty of crazy stuff happening in atoms -- even a neutral hydrogen atom has a bunch of photons and positrons and excess electrons floating around "inside", with an energy fraction proportional to the fine structure constant and with no guarantees that they were there yesterday. Is it the "same" atom at that level? Also, for most of the hydrogen in an exhalation, it probably will be in and out of various electron-swapping configurations over the years. Water gets pretty crazy with its ions, for example.