[hodder]

Total nonsense. Political separation doesn't undue physical oil infrastructure. Crude would continue to flow as is, and trade deals would immediately be struck. Meanwhile, incremental pipeline capacity south would be rapidly approved while existing East/West expansion is hopeless under a Liberal government.

I am a physical oil trader and I buy 200,000 barrels of oil a day to supply refineries in Canada. I have also worked on financing for Energy East, Keystone XL, Northern Gateway, TMX and the Line 9 reversal in my career. Trust me when I say the Canadian government is the problem and Alberta would be MUCH better off from an oil perspective split off of Canada.

[MeIam]

Your trade deals are a flash in history. Native Aboriginal Canadians do not owe anything to oil traders south of the border. You can't force them join your ghettos.

[hodder]

What nonsense are you on about? My company works in partnership with aboriginals. They are supportive of oil broadly speaking. It is one of the largest revenue sources for them.

[apercu]

No personal financial bias at all?

[hodder]

That is the point. Alberta has much to gain financially. Yes I have financial bias and so do all Albertans.

[Tiktaalik]

What is the nonsense part? What advantages does Alberta gain from separation vis a vis pipelines? They’re never going to get more oil to the pacific in either case. Separating weakens their hand in negotiating gas pipelines to the pacific. No one currently cares if Alberta builds more pipelines to the USA. There is no hindrance here. So what does Alberta gain?

Not to mention all the other things Alberta loses. BC the popular vacation and retirement spot, and like Spain to the British would be closed off to Albertans with their holiday homes now under foreign buyer and speculation taxation.

[ChoGGi]

Doesn't all of Northern Alberta fall under Treaty 8? Going to be interesting if we separate from the rest of Canada.

[krrrh]

All of Alberta was ceded to the crown through the numbered treaties prior to the establishment of the province. Are you implying that there’s something about treaty 8 that makes it different from treaty 4, 6, 7, and 10?

It’s all ceded territory, and assuming an independent Alberta retains the crown why would it present any issue?

> Indians DO HEREBY CEDE, RELEASE, SURRENDER AND YIELD UP to the Government of the Dominion of Canada, for Her Majesty the Queen and Her successors for ever, all their rights, titles and privileges whatsoever, to the lands included within the following limits, that is to say:

https://www.rcaanc-cirnac.gc.ca/eng/1100100028813/1581293624...

Even if Alberta became a republic or joined the US, its secession after all, a moment when old agreements which by their original text promising a fresh suit of clothes to each chief every 3 years and $5 per year to every band member are up for even more re-evaluation than they have already been subject to.