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nfg | 9 months ago

> I believe that Microsoft does not care about Gaming those days.

I’d be interested in hearing you expand on that!

Disclaimer: I work there :-)

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petepete|9 months ago

I suspect it's not about Gaming not working well on Windows but that gamers are likely enthusiasts and Windows 11:

* is difficult/impossible to install without tying up a Microsoft Account

* has ads baked in

* is trying to force feed everyone Copilot when most people just don't care

* comes preinstalled with bloat

It's a pity. There's a great OS hiding in there somewhere. A consumer version of LTSC would probably make gamers very happy.

charcircuit|9 months ago

>is difficult/impossible to install without tying up a Microsoft Account

Gamers probably already have a Microsoft account as its required for games like Minecraft or services like Gamepass. A Microsoft account is needed for Windows Hello to function.

>has ads baked in

Do you have an example. I think it's more likely the user installed malware if ads are showing up unexpectedly. Gamers are more likely to install malware like this and Windows's security is not good enough to stop it especially when gamers use admin accounts and disable uac.

>is trying to force feed everyone Copilot when most people just don't care

How is it being forced? I haven't seen it on my machine. I assume people who don't care could just ignore it or disable the feature if they don't want it. Being able to look up help for games using Copilot seems like a feature that gamers may find valuable.

>comes preinstalled with bloat

Bloat is subjective. Actual performance issues caused by unneeded things running while in games would be. The mere existence of unused pteinstalled applications doesn't necessarily cause problems to gamers.

weird_trousers|9 months ago

Reducing costs in Xbox and development partners, the state of the Xbox games submission (and the SDK... as a game engine developer it is the worst and the buggiest of all three major consoles), and finally all the communication and the investment in (crappy) AI from Microsoft and the large reduction of investment in gaming from them.

I know this comes from the Microsoft management side, and not from the devs.

ekianjo|9 months ago

When something is a default, it's not by choice. So people play on Windows because they have a computer running Windows, not because it's made for that.

SleepyMyroslav|9 months ago

disclaimer - I work in gamedev. It certainly looks like the only thing that has any attention to it is Copilot/AI.

tbh, I don't think community here actually cares about games or technical details to go through lists of topics :)

owebmaster|9 months ago

> Disclaimer: I work there :-)

Business dark patterns aren't bugs nor something you can change :)