[noahbp]

> I've tried:

> - Cursor (can't remember which model, the default)

> - Google's Jules

> - OpenAI Codex with o4

Cursor's "default model" rarely works for me. You have to choose one of the models yourself. Sonnet 4, Gemini 2.5 Pro, and for tricky problems, o3.

There is no public release of o4; you used o4-mini, a model with poorer performance than any of the frontier models (Sonnet 4, Gemini Pro 2.5, o3).

Jules and Codex, if they're like Claude Code, do not work well with "Build me a Facebook clone"-type instructions. You have to break everything down and make your own tech stack decisions, even if you use these tools to do so. Yes they are not perfect and make regressions or forget to run linters or check their work with the compiler, but they do work extremely well if you learn to use them, just like any other tool. They are not yet magic that works without you having to put in any effort to learn them.