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Open-sourcing circuit tracing tools

161 points| jlaneve | 9 months ago |anthropic.com

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rob-olmos|9 months ago

Anthropic employees Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken did an interview recently with Dwarkesh Patel, pieces here and there was about the circuit tracing insights.

https://www.dwarkesh.com/p/sholto-trenton-2 -- search the transcript for "circuit" for the quick bits.

Eg, "If you look at the circuit, you can see that it's not actually doing any of the math, it's paying attention to that you think the answer's four and then it's reasoning backwards about how it can manipulate the intermediate computation to give you an answer of four."

https://transformer-circuits.pub/

Tostino|9 months ago

This type of stuff is really important in my opinion. Getting this type of stuff open sourced allows academics and other researchers to try and do this type of interpretability research on a more level playing field.

I think the more people looking at this the better. I have a feeling there will be some breakthroughs in identifying important circuits and being able to make more efficient model architectures that are bootstrapped from some identified primitives.

ofou|9 months ago

Is this Garcon [1], or a new tool?

[1]: https://transformer-circuits.pub/2021/garcon/index.html

e_ameisen|9 months ago

Hi, paper author here.

This is a new tool which relies on existing introspection libraries like TransformerLens (which is similar in spirit to Garcon) to build an attribution graph. This graph displays intermediate computational steps the model took to sample a token.

For more details on the method, see this paper: https://transformer-circuits.pub/2025/attribution-graphs/met....

For examples of using it to study Gemma 2, check out the linked notebooks: https://github.com/safety-research/circuit-tracer/blob/main/...)

We also document some findings on Claude 3.5 Haiku here: https://transformer-circuits.pub/2025/attribution-graphs/bio...)

Eduard|9 months ago

thought this was about PCB tracing and was disappointed.

Henchman21|9 months ago

Same here! Then I immediately thought: I wish people would stop misusing words followed by I guess I think I’m in charge of words now. Then, idly: I’m starting to resemble that “Old Man Yells at Cloud” meme

Funny things, thoughts.

AdamH12113|9 months ago

Yeah, I actually have a decades-old two-layer board that I need to reproduce and I would love to be able to feed images of it into some sort of tool and have it generate a schematic (or at least a netlist) automatically.

buescher|9 months ago

You and me both. The reverse engineering tools are out there even if most of the search results are AI slop that recommends common layout tools. If I really needed the work done though I'd just pay one of the overseas services and clean up from there.

Archit3ch|9 months ago

I was excited for a moment.

mrheosuper|9 months ago

Same. Those AI bros keep stealing our terminology.

asadm|9 months ago

ugh same here.

forgotpwagain|9 months ago

thought this was about tracing neural circuits in the brain and was disappointed.

qtwhat|9 months ago

Curious if we say "thank you", the model will be more activated and result in better answer. ^^