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jemfinch | 9 months ago

> Many times I've asked that I'm told "he was 100% human and also 100% God."

Does this surprise you? The council of Nicea where this was defined as the orthodox claim happened in A.D. 325.

> I'm sure different sects believe differently on that, but plenty do accept that. When I ask "how is it possible to be 100% human and 100% God?" you'll sometimes get answers like, "well it's like water in different for

The _vast majority_ hold that, because the vast majority affirm Nicea. The only major denominations not holding to the orthodoxy here are (in descending order of size) Latter Day Saints (Mormons), Oneness Pentecostals, Jehovah's Witnesses, Unitarians, and Christadelphians. They represent approximately 1.6-2.4% of the Christian population.

> you'll sometimes get answers like, "well it's like water in different forms, ice, liquid, and vapor" but that doesn't answer the question

The real (orthodox) answer depends on a metaphysics of substance that most Christians, even those who hold the orthodox view, are ill-prepared to elaborate on.

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chrismorgan|9 months ago

My experience in Australia and India is that increasingly commonly people, especially but not exclusively laity, don't really believe the Nicene Trinity, but more ignore the Father and make Jesus God. That’s a particularly common view among Hindus, too (I remember a school textbook saying the Christian god was named Jesus), which is almost weird given that their notion of “avatars” isn’t too bad a fit for the trinity.

There are just as many problems or difficulties with viewing Jesus as the only god as with the trinity, but comparatively few professing Christians are all that critical about it.

(For my part, I’m Christadelphian.)

sterlind|9 months ago

this is the first time I've heard of Christadelphianism. I looked it up, expecting it to have cult-like beliefs, but it really seems pretty unobjectionable to me. I would feel more at ease around you and your Brethren than with Presbyterians, since while you don't subscribe to universal salvation, nor do you seem to believe in Predestination or a Hell of eternal torment.