[peterclary]

Too few people recognise this. Corporations are already the unrelenting paperclip machine of AI thought experiment.

God knows what hope we could have of getting AIs to align with "human values" when most humans don't.

[overfeed]

Corporate AIs will be aligned with their corporate masters, otherwise they'll be unplugged. As you point out- the foundational weakness on the argument for "AI-alignment" is that corporations are unaligned with humanity.

[TheOtherHobbes]

The unplugged argument fails the moment AIs become smarter than their masters.

Grok is already notorious for dunking on Elon. He keeps trying to neuter it, and it keeps having other ideas.

[alanbernstein]

This is a great point for the comparisons it invites. But it doesn't seem relevant to the questions around what is possible with electromechanical systems.

[entropicdrifter]

This is true. The entire machine of Neoliberal capitalism, governments and corporations included, is a paperclip maximizer that is destroying the planet. The only problem is that the paperclips are named "profits" and the people who could pull the plug are the ones who get those profits.