[thatguysaguy]

> Do you think the students in that poll had really thought about the credibility of their university when voting?

That's fair, and I'm not sure of course. I guess a more interesting question would be what if there was another option based on what I described. I do know that this is a conversation that we explicitly had in my department many times. It's was an open secret that cheating was rampant, and a degree from that CS department isn't very prestigious. Those two things aren't unrelated.

To your point about a single class giving all A's not damaging it, you're right of course. My point is that this is a classic tragedy of the commons. One plane flight, extra datacenter etc. isn't moving the needle on climate change, but all put together it does.

> If that were the case, the people protesting student Lian forgiveness should be at tge forefront of demanding increased coverage for Medicare and better social security systems in general

I agree, but my response is simple: I don't think either major party in the US has a principled stance on economic issues. There is wild fluctuation in behavior on an issue-to-issue basis. The fact that most students/political parties/people in the universe don't have a coherent set of princples shouldn't stop us from trying to have them!