[Flemlo]

The AI hype also made voice to text and text to voice a lot better.

It's not just chat. But I really enjoy the Claude or chatgpt chat UI.

I'm not sure what your problem with that UI is tbh?

I don't think there will be any crash soon. I'm hoping for lower prices but I can't imagine not having these tools available anymore.

I'm also waiting for better and cheaper support for local development and inferencing.

I'm waiting left and right for a lot of smaller things. Like cheaper Claude, Hardware LLM chips, secure integration of my bank account and other personal data. More capacity for the beta projects of coding agents.

[rvnx]

It would feel like a regression to not have access to such tools, models like Claude are really useful on a day-to-day basis (not only for programming, but for any question you have in life where you would typically use Google and read yourself a lot of information).

We don't need AGI to have increased productivity and benefits.

If it would be _that_ useless, half a billion people wouldn't use such tools every week (and this is not even counting Chinese users).

I think many hate LLMs because they realize that it starts to eat their bread and butter and are already taking their job and find it difficult to accept.

Investors are over-paying, because they are betting on companies that can be outpaced by others, but the technology itself is here to stay and grow, until it can do more and more tasks that are done by humans.

It doesn't mean that LLMs and other AI tools are going to run completely alone anytime soon (maybe with cars first ?), but eventually it could be.

What will be the world in 10 or 20 years from now ?

[mrweasel]

> I'm not sure what your problem with that UI is tbh?

It's not a particularly efficient way to interact with the LLMs. Despite how people hate AI being integrated into everything, I do think that's the only way it can be done effectively. My take is that the AI/LLM isn't the product, it's just a feature of a product. Like when there's "AI" in the camera apps on your phone, or some sort of machine learning in medical imaging. To get the full benefit it needs to be a technology built into your product, not a product in it self.

The voice to text, text to voice is a good example. Voice to text is a feature of a transcription or video conference system. Text to voice is an accessibility feature. It doesn't matter that it's powered by an LLM.

If Claude, ChatGPT, whatever do become cheaper the market will crash. My thinking is: Prices go down (they will eventually), if that happens to fast, OpenAI will tank, their valuation is to high to support a $20 a month AI offering, or worse a world where ChatGPT isn't a product, but a feature. If OpenAI goes down the entire industry will have to re-align to a world where we now know that there's a limit to the value an LLM can command. Most of the current AI companies will be bought up at high discounts (as compared to their current valuations) and people are going to be laid off.

[Flemlo]

The generic chat agent is for me absolutely a product.

The personal assistant agent too.

They might overlap for me but not for everyone.

Nothing will crash. The big rich companies like Google, Microsoft already need it as part of their product strategy.

But about ai companies, I don't think their faith matters at all to end consumer and I'm pretty sure companies like character.ai do not run red numbers.