[nessbot]

I mean regardless of whether it has value in being used, it's pretty much, by definition, "surveillance tech."

[Aurornis]

If everything is "surveillance tech" then nothing is.

Certain functions like remote employee clock-in with geolocation (literally the first example company in the article) are perfectly reasonable to record the employee's GPS coordinates, in my opinion. If you're clocking in at the job site, having some record that you were actually at the job site isn't an invasion of privacy.

[codingdave]

My location is irrelevant to my employer, in most cases. What do they care if I am at home, at the home of someone else, in a hotel, or camping out in a yurt, so long as I do the work, attend the meetings, and get my job done?

[grumpyinfosec]

i always think about e911 calling for enterprise VoIP software phones. In order to make sure the calls go the right 911 local call center it is required to have the user enter the address they are using the computer at. It's the law and the fines for routing to the 911 center of last resort aren't cheap. And thats just the tip of iceberg if required employer surveillance just to follow the damn law.

https://www.fcc.gov/sites/default/files/voip_and_911_service...

[nessbot]

I didn't say it was or was not unreasonable, I said it was surveillance by definition (i.e. based on what the world means).

[wcski]

Eh. Depends on how it's deployed and used, doesn't it? To me, it's like calling a bouncer at a club a private investigator.

[nessbot]

No. I said "by definition" which means based on the meaning of the word not the context.