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HyprMusic | 9 months ago

This feels like a cheap trick to drive users towards Claude Code. It's likely no coincidence that this happened at the same time they announced subscription access to Claude Code.

The Windsurf team repeatedly stated that they're running at a loss so all this seems to have achieved is giving OpenAI an excuse to cut their 3rd party costs and drive more Windsurf users towards their own models.

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artdigital|9 months ago

> This feels like a cheap trick to drive users towards Claude Code

How did you come to this conclusion? It’s very much like he remarked: OpenAI acquired Windsurf, OpenAI is Anthropics direct competitor.

It doesn’t make strategic sense to sell Claude to OpenAI. OpenAI could train against Claude weights, or OpenAI can cut out Anthropic at any moment to push their own models.

The partnership isn’t long lasting so it doesn’t make sense to continue it.

selcuka|9 months ago

> OpenAI could train against Claude weights

OpenAI can always buy a Claude API subscription with a credit card if they want to train something. This change only prevents the Windsurf product from offering Claude APIs to their customers.

huxley|9 months ago

Totally irrelevant, Anthropic isn’t cutting off OpenAI, it is cutting off Windsurf users.

ramesh31|9 months ago

Nobody is actually using Windsurf. It was an acquihire and a squashing of competition that caught ground in the enterprise contract market really early. Anyone doing agentic coding seriously is using open source tooling with direct token pricing to the major model providers. Windsurf/Cursor/et. al are just expensive middlemen with no added value.

peterhadlaw|9 months ago

Which open source agentic tooling are you using. I'm a fan of Aider but I find it lacking the agentic side of things. I've looked at Goose, Plandex, Opencode, and etc. Which do you like?

TiredOfLife|8 months ago

If nobody is using then why cut off access?