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gokhan | 8 months ago

I know a man who was pissed off after realizing the personalized-looking emails from the bank was machine generated. What do you think about those?

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saberience|8 months ago

Are you suggesting that you can compare a formulaic bank email to your mom reading you a bedtime story? I'm not sure you can connect those two things.

Of course, when I go and check my balance at an ATM machine, I don't mind that an actual person isn't reading me the balance. But this isn't an area where we appreciate or want another human being involved.

If you're a "normal", "well adjusted" human being, you appreciate other people, being around them, having friends, lovers, companions, talking to other humans, hearing their actual voices, getting advice and giving advice, hearing someone say "I love you" or "I appreciate you" etc. If you're a "normal", "well adjusted" human being, you will probably feel much less from having an AI voice tell you "I love you".

Of course, if you don't mind never hearing actual human voices again, and prefer just AI talking to you, then sure, go live in your shack and listen to ElevenLabs voices for the rest of your life.

staticman2|8 months ago

I promise this comment will circle back to Elevenlabs:

When my cat died after a few months of cancer treatment, the staff of the animal hospital sent me a condolence card with comments by staff members.

On the one hand, this was a very touching, very human thing to do. On the other hand, this was presumably a work assignment that had to be passed around and completed for staff members to meet their employer's goals, while juggling the other medical and administrative duties at the animal hospital.

So whether this was a good thing or bad thing might depend on how taxing you view it from the staff member's POV.

With the audio book market: it's kind of a similar dichotomy. There's undoubtedly more human touch in the style an audio book is read by an actual human. (Though if that human touch is "stuttering awkwardly because I'm very self aware as I read, you probably wouldn't want to buy my audio book...)

However, for a human to make an audio book, you are asking someone to sit in a room for many hours, being careful not to stutter as they work through a book. If there's joy in that, maybe you see Elevenlabs as an evil company eliminating the human touch in audiobooks. If it's soulless labor, why not replace it with a machine?

nancyminusone|8 months ago

I believe the op's comment was along the lines of "what difference does it make - if you can't tell the difference how can you say it makes a difference?"

To be followed up with the questions of "how will you be able to tell?" and "what are you going to do about it?"