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metta2uall | 8 months ago

Doesn't "DEI" basically mean treating others nicely?

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msgodel|8 months ago

No and it never has. The default position on the internet, the one technologists working on open source always took, is that only the ideas matter and if your ideas are good you'll be included. DEI became popular because that wasn't good enough for certain groups of people who consistently failed to produce good ideas and wanted to wedge themselves in anyway.

MrArthegor|8 months ago

Yeah, from a non-US citizen views, this type of policy feel like target discrimination against certain groups of individuals.

And the message sent is disastrous. Personally I am part of people who have big advantages with actual DEI policy, but I am firmly against that, because I want to be employed for my skills, not because I fit a quota or anything like that.

toastercat|8 months ago

Any policy can be abused, including DEI. But as a whole, I think DEI has done enormous good.

johnnyjeans|8 months ago

reading too deeply into it, it's basically an interjection. it doesn't refer to any meaningful facet of objective reality, it only exists according to the socio-political hallucinations of americans. doesn't matter if it's said positively or negatively, it's just a virtue signal long devoid of meaning. a bird's mating dance, if you will, but for burger-eaters.

worik|8 months ago

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tommica|8 months ago

Pretty sure it did, unfortunately it got swung to an extreme extent in some circles :(

bmacho|8 months ago

No it means treat minorities (gays, women, people of color) nicely and others (straight people, men, white people) badly.

sweeter|8 months ago

This dude is definitely into some hysterical right wing conspiracies. I remember he got yelled at by Linus Torvalds on the LKML for trying to spread anti-vax bs.

https://lkml.org/lkml/2021/6/10/957

I always find it ironic how people like this non-stop whine about "politics in mah FOSS" or video games or w/e, but will turn around and write a manifesto in the README drenched in right wing politically charged slop.

ultimately I really don't care what they spend their time doing, some people still want X11 and if they can keep it running then good for them. I use Wayland because it looks a lot better and is a lot smoother. Its that simple.

imsodin|8 months ago

Oh this link is gold, thanks :) Alread the completely unrelated mention of DEI on the reasoning for a fork, that's supposedly about doing big changes that are suppressed on the original project, is a pretty damning sign. Knowing he is also an anti-vaxxer nut-job says everything you need to know about his judgement. Sure the fork isn't "medical" or otherwise related to vaccines, but at least adequate judgement is needed for anything.

ranger_danger|8 months ago

> I use Wayland because it looks a lot better

Sorry but, what? Wayland doesn't have any concept of a "look" that I'm aware of, so how would one tell the difference?

h0x44|8 months ago

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airhangerf15|8 months ago

The DEI in DEI actually means conformity of thought. It's oddly eugenical and does not foster "diverse ideas"

worik|8 months ago

That is the exact opposite of what it means.

Incipient|8 months ago

DEI is another selector added to "meritocracy" vs "nepotism".

You either give the job to the best candidate, your friend, or a minority.

It has nothing to do with "nice". You can be nice, or an ass. DEI doesn't preclude you being either.