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whyage | 8 months ago

It baffles the mind that people decry the death of a dog while munching a burger. Cows (or chickens, for that matter) are not less precious than dogs, and yet the vast majority of us eat as much and as many of them as they can afford.

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paxys|8 months ago

> Cows (or chickens, for that matter) are not less precious than dogs

You can feel that way, and that's fine, but people are allowed to decide what they do or don't find precious. They are allowed to rank species and members within a species in order of most to least precious. There's no inherent rule that all life must be valued the same. Would you not be more sad about a human child dying over a cow? Would you not be more sad about a loved one dying about a random person you don't know a few thousand miles away?

yesfitz|8 months ago

The person you're responding to didn't mention "feeling". They made a moral statement. Feelings are something we deal with, morals are something we work to build. Confusing the two will lead to a very confusing life.

Additionally, your examples are passive. A more appropriate comparison would be "Would you not be more sad about killing a human child instead of a cow?" Of course you would be! But what if you didn't have to do either?

IAmBroom|8 months ago

Exactly.

By extension, what makes cows more precious than 800 lb. of algal scum? Heck, the scum at least is reducing CO2 content; cows support global warming.

Who's precious now???

ivm|8 months ago

Humans are remarkably skilled at extending-reducing the range of their empathy, often deep compassion is reserved only for the carefully selected in-group members. It’s even easier to withhold it when it comes to other beings.

ninetyninenine|8 months ago

It’s not baffling. Dogs appeal to our paternal and maternal instincts. They have evolved to hijack it.

They reproduce faster then us so puppies are able to get cuter then babies over generations and thus they are out competing us.

johnea|8 months ago

I would only agree to this to the extent that humans have engineered this "evolution".

That's why they're called "breeds", because humans bred them.

They're bred for cuteness, violence, but mostly they're bred for profit.

The "pet industry" is a rapid growth segment of the economy. If a pet is "part of the family", then isn't the "pet industry" basically a slave trade?

triceratops|8 months ago

Calves aren't cute?

gcau|8 months ago

If you're just eating a burger, you're not personally slaughtering the cow. Secondly, the relationship of humans and dogs is far different than humans and cows, dogs have evolved alongside us as companions, and cows are food.

If you had to choose between a family member dying or a totally random person dying, even though objectively they're both just humans, you're going to kill the random person, because you have feelings and emotions, and they are part of the equation. For the same reason you'd kill the random person, people would kill the cow, and want to save the dog.

adsharma|8 months ago

This is one of the reasons why I dislike "cattle, not pets" which is used in the SRE world to explain automation.

GuinansEyebrows|8 months ago

agreed. it's definitely descriptive based on the popular consensus, but... cattle are living, sentient creatures, too.

tacocataco|8 months ago

Is it legal to have a dog burger?

IAmBroom|8 months ago

Depends on local laws.