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msravi | 8 months ago

CCTV capture of complete takeoff: https://x.com/ShivAroor/status/1933165937399648447

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1970-01-01|8 months ago

I'm told not to speculate, but I'm going to do it anyway because this video clearly shows there was an issue going to full thrust. It's an extremely rare dual engine failure or pilots' error not calling up full thrust to keep it flying. Very possible this is the famous bird strike issue Capt. Sullenburger experienced in 2009.

msravi|8 months ago

But doesn't seem like a bird strike issue here, right? And given the rarity of a dual engine failure, seems to point to not calling up full thrust? But seems to me that this kind of error would be more common without any technical safeguards?

tim333|8 months ago

It's interesting that up to about 30s in the video you can see the plane climbing normally, then it loses power and starts falling, about 10s after take off.

Apparently the pilot radioed "Mayday…no thrust, losing power, unable to lift!” 11 secs after takeoff.

It would seem to fit with a bird strike on both engines. Or contaminated fuel I guess. The stuff about flaps seems irrelevant.

Quite likely this and Jeju Air crash in Korea and Sully landing in the Hudson were all caused by bird strike taking out both engines.

callamdelaney|8 months ago

There is a lot of dust at the 20s mark, I’d assume that there shouldn’t be dust on normal takeoffs at busy airports.

cmilton|8 months ago

It’s possible they had to use part of the runway that most other takeoffs don’t need to extend to. Just pure speculation.

Too|8 months ago

Is it normal to have human operators pointing the camera around like that? It almost look like they expected something to happen.

__m|8 months ago

It's not uncommon, people like planes.

rawgabbit|8 months ago

Extremely slow takeoff. The engines appeared to have both quit. And the plane did a slow descent and crash.

anon84873628|8 months ago

Those slow seconds of falling must be psychological torture. If I'm in a plane crash I want it to be instantaneous.