[mliker]

OpenAI and Anthropic rely on multiple data vendors for their models so that no outside company is aware of how they train their proprietary models. Forbes reported the other day that OpenAI had been winding down their usage of Scale data: https://www.forbes.com/sites/richardnieva/2025/06/12/scale-a...

[egillie]

And scale doesn’t even have the best data among these vendors so I also don’t get this argument

[CyberMacGyver]

What are some other options ?

[dr_dshiv]

Yeah, but they know how to get the quality human labeled data at scale better than anyone — and they know what Anthropic and OpenAI wanted — what made it quality