[camjw]

The point is that people should be able to use their own judgement on a wide variety of issues and not be forced to delegate their decision making power to the courts/third parties.

There's a difference between "we want to lock this person up and take away their liberty, so we should be basically certain" versus "look man he's been done for drugs and she ended up with a broken arm, I don't trust this person".

[qualeed]

>not be forced to delegate their decision making power to the courts/third parties.

That's not close to what I was saying, and I don't know how people are interpreting it this way.

[camjw]

That is the point of saying "innocent until proven guilty"? Who does the proving? How can it not be interpreted in this way?