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fallingknife | 8 months ago

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protocolture|8 months ago

"You dont have the right to enter another country" How do you know.

"Therefore any country is allowed to investigate you" What for thought crimes?

Bootlicking levels are off the charts here. Theres nothing reasonable about investigating someones social media history, especially because opinions change over time. I dont want to see people in immigration detention because of a decade old social media post. This is the kind of behaviour that we used to criticise failed states for. "Its not safe for you to travel to syria because you gave a talk about human rights abuses of the assad regime" etc.

Americans rightly criticised Australia for preventing americans with wonky ideas from traveling to Australia.

Why is this view suddenly being normalised now that America wants to implement it?

lmm|8 months ago

> "You dont have the right to enter another country" How do you know.

If you're applying for a visa it's because you don't have the right to enter. Not only is there no reason to apply for a visa if you already have the right to enter, it's usually illegal to do so.

> Theres nothing reasonable about investigating someones social media history, especially because opinions change over time. I dont want to see people in immigration detention because of a decade old social media post. This is the kind of behaviour that we used to criticise failed states for. "Its not safe for you to travel to syria because you gave a talk about human rights abuses of the assad regime" etc.

The US has always been unreasonable at the border. Nothing is changing there sadly.

kristjansson|8 months ago

Nonetheless one can be dismayed at seeing what those we've placed in power decide to do with that privilege.

Bilal_io|8 months ago

The issue is that the US claims to be a free speech absolutist and even tries to apply this morality outside its borders using criticism and sometimes force.

amanaplanacanal|8 months ago

The executive can only enforce laws passed by the legislature. The first amendment says that "Congress shall make no law". So how the hell can the executive make decisions about anything based on a person's speech? If Congress approved this, it's unconstitutional. If they haven't, the executive is going beyond their purview, which is also unconstitutional.

lolc|8 months ago

How would you like to be probed by your host country today?

lmz|8 months ago

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duxup|8 months ago

Next up is "you don't have a right to go to college" right?

Trump administration has already made demands to monitor US students for "viewpoint diversity" and adjust admissions accordingly ...

fallingknife|8 months ago

That's correct, you don't. Colleges can and will deny you admissions if you express certain unpopular opinions.