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JeffMcCune | 8 months ago

Except you can easily install calico, istio, and ceph on used hardware in your garage and get an experience nearly identical to every hyper scaler using entirely free open source software.

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zdw|8 months ago

Having worked on on-prem K8s deployments, yes, you can do this. But getting it to production grade is very different than a garage-quality proof of concept.

mdaniel|8 months ago

I think OP's point was: but how much of that production grade woe is the fault of Kubernetes versus, sure, turns out booting up an PaaS from scratch is hard as nails. I think that k8s pluggable design also blurs that boundary in most people's heads. I can't think of the last time the control plane shit itself, versus everyone and their cousin has a CLBO story for the component controllers installed on top of k8s