[bodhi]

I’ll preface with IANACL, but you seem to be making a moral argument yourself about A), that it is not reasonable.

You have, I assume, a licensed copy of Harry Potter. That license restricts you from doing certain activities, like making (distributing? Lets go with distributing) derived works. Your models are derived works. Thus when you distribute your models, you’re violating the licence terms you “agreed” to when you acquired your copy of Harry Potter.

This is no judgement by me about whether that’s reasonable or not, just my understanding of the mechanics.

[perching_aix]

Rather than a moral argument, I think they're more just disagreeing that the spirit behind copyright law is being violated in that case. So while yes, there may be a rule in there that you may have agreed to, they disagree that such a rule is within the spirit of the law, and may reckon that it should not be a part of it even if it presently is. Like they explicitly mention how they're reflecting on the idea behind it all, rather than producing a legal analysis.

Or at least that's how I read it. I'm sure GP will clarify shortly.

[fc417fc802]

More precisely, the reasoning hinges on the assertion that "Your models are derived works." which I doubt is so cut and dry. There are many processes that take external information as input. That alone clearly can't be sufficient to established that something is unambiguously a derived work.

[SubiculumCode]

I read a copyrighted book, it is lossy encoded into the weights of my brain. Am I a derivative work now? No. If that book inspires me to write another book in its genre, it will also not be a derivative work unless it adheres too closely to the original book.

[regularfry]

In this scenario I personally have no physical, audio, or otherwise legitimately purchased copies of any Potters, Harry. I have entered into no direct licence agreement. If it makes things simpler, ignore the "format shifting" aside.

[CaptainFever]

Nitpick: Can a license restrict you? I thought it only gave you additional rights, should you choose to accept it, but can't take away rights you have (e.g. the ability to make parodies from it). The restriction comes from IP laws themselves.