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hackernoops | 8 months ago

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bilkow|8 months ago

I got curious and found a ton of red flags in about half hour...

Summary of the drama that resulted in Xlibre:

- https://discuss.pixls.us/t/weekly-recap-8-june-2025/50638

From the README at https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver:

> This is an independent project, not at all affiliated with BigTech or any of their subsidiaries or tax evasion tools, nor any political activists groups, state actors, etc. It's explicitly free of any "DEI" or similar discriminatory policies. Anybody who's treating others nicely is welcomed.

This exchange between him and Torvalds in 2021:

- https://lkml.org/lkml/2021/6/10/903

- https://lkml.org/lkml/2021/6/10/957

bitwize|8 months ago

Xlibre is doing more to bury X than Wayland could achieve in decades on its own strength. If X11's only working implementation is maintained by a fascist or fascist-adjacent lunatic, watch the major applications, libraries, and toolkits rip out their X support code paths in a hurry.

shadowgovt|8 months ago

Looking at the history of that doc, I was most annoyed not about what was added but what was removed: the random anti-DEI stuff was in place of the part that described what an X server is.

Like, my guy. If your goal is to provide a better solution than the existing one, telling people what you're making is step 1. No, the user can't be assumed to already know. You've already made your first mistake if you've made that assumption.