[revnode]

> If the US is in the wrong, why should I as a citizen not want our government officials held accountable?

A core principle of American justice is judgement by a jury of your peers from your community according to our laws, not by foreigners on the other side of the planet according to foreign laws. Violations of our core principles through means we were not a party to is a violation of our sovereignty.

[vkou]

> A core principle of American justice is judgement by a jury of your peers from your community according to our laws, not by foreigners on the other side of the planet according to foreign laws.

When a US president signs a death list - the assassination of someone, does that person get a trial by a jury of their peers first?

Or do they just get a predator drone missile in their direction?

I think it's accurate to say that a core principle of American justice is that there is one set of rules for the in-group, and another for the out-group. And any institution that tries to normalize this is anathema to that principle.

[vanviegen]

Is committing war crimes against non-US citizens in other sovereign countries part of US sovereignty?

(I'm not saying that's what happened, just explaining why I think it is morally right for the ICC to exist, however impractical when dealing with powerful nations.)

[slt2021]

>>jury of your peers from your community according to our laws

when it comes to Crimes against humanity (genocide, mass killings, tortures, etc) - our peers are whole Humanity, and everyone who support United Nation's Human Rights Declaration.

You cannot have American human rights to live, and at the same time deny the right to live to non-Americans. Which is what America is doing: extrajudicial murder of foreigners (drone strikes + collateral murder) and sponsoring of terrorism and genocide (Israel-gaza war).

the point is not to argue specific bullet points on obscure US codes, but 30 very basic unalienable universal human rights.

if USA denies these rights to the whole world, then there is no reason to expect the whole world support america in any way, like lending money by buying US treasuries, exchanging oil for freshly printed worthless USD, respecting US tourists' right to live when they are exploring the world, etc

[justacrow]

"Core principles" here also being America assassinating and kidnapping citizens of other countries wherever they may be on the globe.