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fallingknife | 8 months ago

They're not going to escalate. They're already getting their ass handed to them by Israel and the last thing they want is to throw down with their other enemies in the region right now. You are correct that there will be no ground invasion, so there is no existential threat to the government. This means they have no incentive to do something stupid that will make anyone change their mind on that invasion.

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TeeMassive|8 months ago

It's a country of 100M people. They're not just gonna be have their "ass handed to them", just like it didn't happen in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq1, Iraq2, Yemen and Afghanistan. Countries do adapt to bombings, especially when there's a superpower nearby.

Also if they "were just about to have the bomb" then they could develop it and use it after. So there is the conflicting position that they are both insane to use it and but both sane to not escalate the conflict. This is where most pro-war arguments fail the basic logic test in the nuclear bomb era.

abletonlive|8 months ago

"just like it didn't happen in korea, vietnam, iraq1, iraq2, yemen and afghanistan."

that's a fancy retelling of history you got there. MILLIONs died in those wars and less than 100K US troops died. Out of those wars, iraq 1 led to iraq defeat and withdrawal from kuwait. iraq 2 had saddam dragged through the streets and a regime change within 3 weeks, yemen was counterterrorism - there's no regime to topple, in afghanistan the taliban regime was removed for 20 years and only once the troops were withdrawn were they able to crawl back.

the current Iranian regime is over.

handfuloflight|8 months ago

> so there is no existential threat to the government.

Do you think sitting by and doing nothing will not pose an existential threat to the government by way of constituent discontent?

TeeMassive|8 months ago

And now every regime who feared getting regime-changed will have an interest of developing the bomb. Gaddafi effect is real.

yonisto|8 months ago

This is a fanatic regime. I will have its people eating grass before giving up on anything.