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dkjaudyeqooe | 8 months ago

This is not true for most people. They get comfortable with their phones and they don't see any reason to change something that works.

My friend has had her phone for 7 years and she's being pushed off it because apps are refusing to run on it now. No other reason than that.

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kristianp|8 months ago

Part of the reason apps don't work is because the upgrade policies of the app stores, requiring ever increasing minimum OS version. Forced software obsolescence.

Semaphor|8 months ago

I have an alarm app for android (Gentle Alarm), that’s IMO by far the best there is (YMMV obviously, but I never found another one with the same features). It was originally paid, but long ago abandoned (as in: the dev disappeared completely). Using it today required unpacking the APK, changing the manifest, repacking, and then installing it via ADB using the `-bypass-low-target-sdk-block` flag, then manually adding the "draw over other apps" permission.

Once that is done, it works fully as expected. I dread the day some new version will fully block it.

jakub_g|8 months ago

The main reason for this is to force the publishers to stop relying on deprecated APIs that have way too much access, and migrate towards new APIs that offer more fine grained permissions and control to the user.

BTW The stores requirements are not really about minimum OS version of the phone, but minimum SDK version of the build chain. It's often possible to have secure code path for new OS and the legacy code path for old OS, but in practice it can be burdensome sometimes.

nolist_policy|8 months ago

Not true, no one stops you from publishing a app for Android 1.0 on the Play store. It's going to be hard though, you won't be able to request any permissions etc.

pndy|8 months ago

Aye. In last years I quite often saw comments in Apple's appstore from really angry people whose devices were left behind after one update. The developers/companies and the garden's guardians gave them unspoken "get new phone" option.

mytailorisrich|8 months ago

And this would not change anything about that.

Kbelicius|8 months ago

Yes it would.

> longer availability of operating system updates, at least 5 years from the date the last unit model is sold

yoavm|8 months ago

The article mentions "longer availability of operating system updates, at least 5 years from the date the last unit model is sold". So it would absolutely change everything about that.

reycharles|8 months ago

Not directly, but it sets a course where this might change.