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gwervc | 8 months ago

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danielspace23|8 months ago

In recent news from the "land of the free": a Norwegian tourist was detained by ICE and denied entry at Newark Airport for having a funny picture of JD Vance on his phone.

You can claim what you want about freedom of speech being guaranteed in the USA, but the reality shows that it only applies for some people.

https://www.nordlys.no/mads-sin-drommereise-til-usa-spolert-...

oeitho|8 months ago

What are you talking about? Multiple EU countries have free speech written in their constituion.

Article 5 in German basic law (their constitution): https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/englisch_gg/englisch_gg.h... (translated)

77th paragraph in the Danish constituion: https://www.thedanishparliament.dk/-/media/sites/ft/pdf/publ... (translated)

Edit: the flagged comment I replied to claimed that no EU country had free speech in their constitution. This is objectively wrong, and is why I wrote my comment.

mslansn|8 months ago

Germany? Must be some dark joke. You know how many things can get you fined there?

perihelions|8 months ago

> "Multiple EU countries have free speech written in their constituion."

That's an exceedingly low bar! We need more critical thinking than that to start a substantive discussion about comparative freedoms across political systems. A government can't just declare itself to be a free country; it's practical reality which matters.

Exhibits A, B, & C:

> "Citizens of the People's Republic of China shall enjoy freedom of speech, the press, assembly, association, procession and demonstration"

https://english.www.gov.cn/archive/laws_regulations/2014/08/... ("Constitution of the People’s Republic of China")

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Constitution_of_the_People%27...

> "In conformity with the interests of the toilers, and in order to strengthen the socialist system, the citizens of the U.S.S.R. are guaranteed by law:—(a) Freedom of speech; (b) Freedom of the Press; (c) Freedom of assembly and of holding mass meetings; (d) Freedom of street processions and demonstrations..."

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Page:The_Soviet_Socialist_Con... ("Constitution of the Soviet Union (1936)")

> "Citizens are guaranteed freedom of speech, the press, assembly, demonstration and association. The State shall guarantee the conditions for the free activities of democratic political parties and social organizations."

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Socialist_Constitution_of_the... ("Socialist Constitution of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (2023)")