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Tennis Scorigami

49 points| jlarks32 | 8 months ago |tennis-scorigami.com

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pimlottc|8 months ago

I’m trying to read the box scores and they keep updating. I thought we all decided that automatic carousels were a bad idea years ago.

Yes, I see now that you can stop this my manually advancing the carousel but it’s not at all obvious. Particularly since it’s no longer visible on mobile when you’ve scrolled down to the scores.

jlarks32|8 months ago

Great feedback. I hear ya on the automatic carousels just was trying to capture that scoreboard-esque feel.

I'll take action on these comments soon(ish). But yes, I concur I need to drastically improve the mobile layout tbh.

npinsker|8 months ago

I can see the appeal of football Scorigami -- there's a story, an interesting one, behind some of the scores. Some seem impossible, but are barely doable. Some were only feasible in a different time, when the game was played differently. Many have to do with obscure rule clauses. It all makes for a great way to appreciate football from a different angle.

Here I'm not really invested in any of the numbers... the website is beautiful though.

jlarks32|8 months ago

Ok 1) thank you for the comment about the website haha I am flattered. 2) Anything I could do to make your more invested in the numbers? I get what you mean about some of the scores being almost too homogenous and therefore the fact it's unique at a best-of-5 level makes it almost less globally unique. Any thoughts on how I could make the "story" a bit more interesting?

jedberg|8 months ago

Skimming briefly, it looks like a lot of the missing score are some combo of 6-0 and then 0-6. Which makes sense. It's highly unlikely for a set to to be that unbalanced, and then be so unbalanced the other way.

Someone|8 months ago

Adding some math: assume player 1 has a probability of p of winning a game, and therefore, player 2 having a probability of 1-p.

Then, the probability of player 1 winning a set 6-0 is p⁶; the probability of player 2 doing that is (1-p)⁶.

Let’s assume a fairly evenly matched game, where p=0.6. Then, those probabilities are about 4.7% and 0.4%. Combined, that’s about 1 in 5,000, or 1:2500 to get either of 6:0;0:6 or 0:6;6:0.

Doesn’t sound too bad but in real life, that number will be a lot lower because of the server advantage in tennis. Especially in men’s tennis, the server has a big advantage, making even single set 6-0 scores highly unlikely.

ben0x539|8 months ago

Sorry OP I was so mesmerized by the cute mouse interaction in the logo that I didn't yet get around to checking out what this site is about.

jlarks32|8 months ago

Honestly, it ends up being about 30% of the way I interact with my landing page. For better or for worse.

jlarks32|8 months ago

Just a note, if you guys haven't checked out the `Explore` page, I would highly recommend doing that for some interesting visualizations. My first page -> second page dropoff % is higher than I would have hoped for...

yzydserd|8 months ago

TL;DR

In the Women’s 3-set match, where there are 735 possibilities, these scores have never eventuated:

6-0 0-6 7-5, 6-0 0-6 6-0, 0-6 6-0 7-5

Meanwhile, in the 5-set format of Men’s matches, only 8.5% of the more than 100k result possibilities have occurred.

Then add on a huge UI.