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jlebar | 8 months ago

Who gets to define what is anti-American?

Perhaps you think it's anti-American to believe that Israel is committing war crimes in Gaza. Perhaps I think it's anti-American to believe that the Jan 6 rioters should have been pardoned.

Whose purity test should we apply?

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15155|8 months ago

We're talking about foreigners: if you are a guest in someone's country, home, wherever, you should be respectful and quiet.

I don't want any foreigners contributing to any political activism whatsoever, regardless of ideology.

axus|8 months ago

I'd certainly expect visitors to be held to the same standards as the natives. This is the problem, as a US citizen I don't want to be respectful and quiet, especially when I disagree with my government.

jlebar|8 months ago

Okay but that's not what this is about. This is saying that a foreigner cannot express private thoughts online at any point before they enter the United States.

I assume someone who goes by "15155" would believe that having private conversations online can be useful. Or do you want to post your identifying information?

mindslight|8 months ago

You do you, and we'll have the parties at my house then. Enjoy quietly playing Catan or whatever.

Your extrapolation to the national level is fallacious. Many of our academic institutions were deliberately hosting foreigners, with the explicit goal of being melting pots of ideas. That gave the US an exceptional cultural cachet around the globe. This whole thing is an exercise in attacking and destroying our traditional distributed institutions in favor of centralized autocratic control.

tuyguntn|8 months ago

Why do you allow then foreign lobby groups?

Or why did you allow Elon to participate in elections, he was a foreigner at some point and he wasn't born in America?

IG_Semmelweiss|8 months ago

The majority of the people's opinion.

Which elected a democratically-elected representative.

That is how democracies work.

If there's anything the executive has power over besides commander in chief, it would be leader in chief of defining what is actually, American.

The fact that prior presidents have actually abdicated this important role, doesn't mean it didn't exist. This is why traditions of the State of the Union, etc exist. The executive gets to call the plays towards unity for Americanism.

This is what foreign countries do as well.

zinodaur|8 months ago

And next time the Democrats get elected they will filter out all the right wing professors/students, and this will make you happy?

jacob_a_dev|8 months ago

When it comes to allowing foreighn students to come to US, which from my understanding is a likely path to citizenship, the executive branch gets to decide, which is basically elected by 51% of population every 4 years.

I prefer the exec branch over no purity test, or delegating to some other "expert" institution.

mtnGoat|8 months ago

51% of the voting population. Not the majority of the population. Big difference in numbers there, only 65.3% participated. So, less than a third of Americans voted for the current president… why people don’t vote, I’ll never understand.