[avoutos]

Oct 7th was certainly not the start of the conflict, but it was at a level of barbarity that one can not consider it to be provoked.

> Without a sense of proportionate response, if Hitler did some false flag attacks, do you expect the whole world to be okay with the Holocaust?

Can you explain this point? I don't think I quite understand.

[keutoi]

More than 50 years of oppression and countless atrocities. If you are slowly killing a man by choking him and he stabs your eye in defense, is that provocation?

If Hitler bombed a some Germans and blamed it on the Jewish people, should rest of the world be okay with the Holocaust?