[dubcanada]

Jobs has been gone for almost 15 years. From what I know Ive had nothing to do with anything but design aesthetic.

I am not sure either of these people have anything to do with ads on Apple Wallet. Or even Apple Wallet…

[bobbylarrybobby]

The point is, when Jobs was around, there was an overarching (unstated?) policy at Apple of “nobody do anything to make us look like cheap tasteless shits”. Whereas now, Tim Cook is very happy to sell out for a quick buck. He's a logistics guy, not a product guy, and at his core is a bean counter; he neither has taste nor appreciates that it has value unto itself.

[tokioyoyo]

There were ~60M iPhone users when Jobs was the CEO. There are about ~1.4B right now. Both respectively accomplished very respectable things. It’s not selling for a quick buck if he was able to scale the business to such degrees. That being said, I agree that Apple makes a lot of wrongs.

[bliteben]

Jobs had won complete cultural dominance of desktop pcs with the iMac 27". If you saw a desktop on a tv show for the past 20 years it was an iMac 27". Tim saw they could cancel it and go against their policy of minimal cords and sell separate Mac minis and Mac Studio displays.

[keiferski]

The entire reason Apple made devices that were a level above competitors is because the design wasn’t just the aesthetic. Ive was chief designer and so obviously had a key impact.

[pqtyw]

It might be a complete misinterpretation but it seems like Ive went completely haywire when Job's was gone with the ultra thin, portless, overheating Macs with a crappy keyboards and pointless touch bars that sort of looked cool but provided no other real value.

[nottorp]

Key impact like the shit emoji keyboard that couldn't survive a single speck of dust?

[hshshshshsh]

How do you know Ive had a key impact? Do you know it or read somewhere online?

[dkersten]

> I know Ive had nothing to do with

Ok you haven’t but what about Ive?