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jmsdnns | 8 months ago

Jobs hated ads. You're right that he never wouldve done what Apple is doing now.

Cook needs to stop listening to investors, like Warren Buffett, because he's letting them wreck Apple's integrity for the sake of making a buck. Apple just isnt user focused like they used to be and it's crappy.

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bluedevilzn|8 months ago

Jobs created iAd. He hated bad ads.

Here’s him announcing and talking about ads in WWDC: https://youtu.be/eY3BZzzLaaM?si=Dttc5eJJ1B7Zf3sB

jmsdnns|8 months ago

he was vocal about his opposition to intrusive ads in particular. he'd say "You’re either the customer or you’re the product." he believed users paid a premium for apple products and that they should not be subjected to compromises with advertising.

iAd was something that happened right at the end of his life because devs were putting ads in apple apps anyway and he wanted to control how that was done.

this is meant to add context to what bluedevilzn said, btw. it is not a refutation.

JumpCrisscross|8 months ago

Yeah, “Jobs hated ads” is a such a wild rewriting of the history of one of industry’s greatest marketers and, yes, ad men. (1984 commercial. Mac vs PC.)

Nemi|8 months ago

I am curious what you attribute that Warren Buffett is asking Tim Cook to do? Warren is notorious for being hands-off with operations. I can't imagine him having ANY commentary on what Tim Cook should be doing with Apple other than with capital allocation.

jameshart|8 months ago

Jobs paid for some of the most iconic ads of all time - 1984, Think Different, Rip Mix Burn, dancing iPod silhouettes, I’m a PC…

chii|8 months ago

Cook is an operations person. He makes the logistics work. He's no visionary. Jobs is a visionary, but is not a logistics person. Apple struck lightning when both existed, to provide complimentary ideas and counterbalances.

Lighting doesnt strike twice imho.

hylaride|8 months ago

Same with Ive and Jobs. Ive was a great designer, but no usability expert. Jobs put practical limits on and as soon as Jobs was gone, Ive got total control. The result is some of the least-popular Mac laptops ever.