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jmercouris | 8 months ago

Yes, in practice this increases price transparency. Imagine everything could be monetized. They could charge for access to the bathroom, or water. What is the minimum expectation of what is included in the price of a ticket?

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dheera|8 months ago

I'm against charging for bathrooms, water, or other such basic human needs while you are in the custody of the airline for the duration of travel. There should be a basic standard of human care that includes those things. Food should also be included for flights over 5-ish hours.

Carry-on fees are a whole another level of shittiness though. I, the customer, am the one carrying the bag, there should be no reason to charge for it.

It's like charging extra for wearing a red shirt or charging extra for wearing a hat.

kelnos|8 months ago

> I, the customer, am the one carrying the bag, there should be no reason to charge for it.

It's on the plane, so it takes up some of the limited storage space, and increases the weight of the plane, which means more fuel burned.

Saying you carry the bag so there's no reason to charge for it is like saying you carry yourself onto the plane, so there's no reason to charge you for the flight ticket.

So either they build the average per-passenger cost into the price of every ticket, or they charge a fee only for people who want to take on the extra bag.

whazor|8 months ago

In practice, flights.google.com doesn't know the price of a luggage. So you might think a Easyjet/Ryanair ticket is cheaper, but I have had situations where actually after adding the luggage for every passenger the normal airline is €30 cheaper in total. And you get a free drink plus snack.

Honestly, it would be much better for transparency reasons if budget airlines offer a discount for no luggage instead of an extra fee.

CamperBob2|8 months ago

What is the minimum expectation of what is included in the price of a ticket?

The expectation that you eventually reach your destination alive.

That's it, from the airlines' perspective.

jopsen|8 months ago

> The expectation that you eventually reach your destination alive.

Tell me, when you fly as freight do pay to have the box labelled "fragile" :)

userbinator|8 months ago

What is the minimum expectation of what is included in the price of a ticket?

A seat.

dale_glass|8 months ago

Certainly a bathroom has to be included, you can't lock people in a tube in the sky and then not let them pee.

But I believe Ryanair considered trying not to use seats at one point.

jopsen|8 months ago

Seats are not included in all bus or train tickets :)

ajmurmann|8 months ago

I'd include air and a seatbelt

baq|8 months ago

in a more civilized time there would be a bit more than that.