[mslansn]

It would seem foolish to trust the temperature records from the same people who want to install draconian measures using temperatures as an excuse.

[1718627440]

How do you define "the same people"? Everyone who publishes weather data?

What agenda do you think people have that are long dead?

If you distrust everything you can measure it yourself. I am still in youth and even I can see changes myself. There used to be snow in the winter and now it's rare for example. Yes that is weather not climate; I don't live long enough to see climate changes. But there are oil paintings from 300 years ago. Are these fake?

Genuine question: How do you know, that people who know climate change is made-up are trustworthy and don't have their own agenda?

[mslansn]

I have no idea if they have their own agenda, but their ends (such as supporting private transportation and meat consumption) I support. Even if I didn’t trust them, and I don’t trust them either, the ends justify the means.

[1718627440]

What "draconian measures"? Planting trees and installing water fountains?

[josefritzishere]

You know those draconian trees. That would be some very severe foliage.

[mensetmanusman]

Temperature is one of the easiest things to measure.

We know the effect of urban heat islands, stations sitting issues, mercury to thermistors upgrade transitions, time of observation bias, etc.

What we do with this data is a political situation, as the world is in a cooling cycle globally: https://www.climate.gov/media/16817

We have the technology to mitigate all of this, but not a critical baseline of education in the population to make the necessary sacrifices.