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lemoncucumber | 8 months ago

Also the risk of their unproven approach of not using lidar for self driving, unlike every competing self-driving system.

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simondotau|8 months ago

What’s your definition of “unproven” which doesn’t cover what Tesla has achieved, but does cover what Waymo has achieved? Hint: one of those has driven at least two if not three orders of magnitude more miles unaided by humans.

Just to be clear, because a lot of people who don’t follow this closely may not appreciate it, the 3-D spatial awareness component of Tesla’s stack has been solved problem for a couple of years now. The long tail problem is path planning and decision-making. LIDAR doesn’t make that any easier, even in theory.

gamblor956|8 months ago

Hint: one of those has driven at least two if not three orders of magnitude more miles unaided by humans.

Yes we all know that Waymo has done this but this thread is about Tesla.

3-D spatial awareness component of Tesla’s stack has been solved problem for a couple of years now

A lot of people have died because their self driving Teslas did not have spatial awareness and crashed into stationary objects at full speed. Clearly we have different definitions of construction "solved".