[rainworld]

And yet here we are: DNR -> fancy grain -> DNR -> basic, approximated grain. Because noise doesn’t compress. And you get compression artifacts even in Blu-ray releases. What’s the point of applying fancy grain when what a lot viewers end up seeing is an ugly smudge?

[kridsdale1]

Because it looks amazing in the editing studio. Just like the sound mix is incredible on the Atmos monitors in the sound mixing room, even though the home viewers have a soundbar at best and tiny stereo speakers in a flat panel typically. The dynamics and dialog channel will be fucked. But that’s user error.

[wbl]

Movies are best enjoyed in the theater.

[account42]

Yeah I always roll my eyes when people get so mad about compressed (as in reduced dynamic range) audio. I just want to watch / listen to stuff without annoying my neighbors and don't particularly care whether or not the volume of gunshots is realistic.

[Wowfunhappy]

This is exactly why theatrical releases are so important to movie producers, isn't it?

[dylan604]

The grain is there to hide the ugly smudge. that's the question they rather you didn't ask

[notpushkin]

I think at some point studios will give de-grained versions to Netflix directly.

[dylan604]

At some point, it would not surprise me for Netflix to require this to be provided. While not negating what you concluded, I just think the impetus for the result is important to distinguish.