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Seine reopens to Paris swimmers after century-long ban

149 points| divbzero | 8 months ago |lemonde.fr | reply

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[+] nextos|8 months ago|reply
One of the benefits of EU regulations is that they have brought some order to the dumping of raw sewage into rivers and seas. But there is still a lot of work to do.

Local authorities from lots of EU regions generally avoid measuring water quality after rainy days because raw sewage is still often dumped under those conditions.

Even in Basel, where the Rheine is really clean, authorities sometimes advise not to swim.

[+] thinkingtoilet|8 months ago|reply
Are there other options when it rains? I imagine they're not dumping sewage into rivers for fun.
[+] noughtme|8 months ago|reply
The source of the Seine is in Burgundy. Not a European, so wondering what the relationship between the Seine and EU regulations is.
[+] cycomanic|8 months ago|reply
For anyone visiting Paris, the sewer museum is definitely a unique experience and worth a visit (although smelly). It gives you a grasp of what a monumental it was to build the sewers back then. You can also see the overflow reservoirs that dump water into the Seine when there is heavy rain (they were talking about the cleanup efforts leading to the Olympics when I was there some years ago).
[+] sidibe|8 months ago|reply
+1, I always recommend this. It's interesting, doesn't take very long, and well situated right in the middle of the tourism to get a little break from whatever the outside weather is.
[+] ourmandave|8 months ago|reply
I wonder what comes up when you search for "restaurants in your area" coming out of there. Or why someone actually would.
[+] alamortsubite|8 months ago|reply
Absolutely, and if you like the Musée des Égouts de Paris, you'll also enjoy the sewer museum in Brussels.
[+] jedimastert|8 months ago|reply
> The seasonal opening of the Seine for swimming is seen as a key legacy of the Paris 2024 Olympics, when open-water swimmers and triathletes competed in its waters which were specially cleaned for the event.

Meanwhile...

> The Olympic legacy of the Seine has taken another hit, with a second athlete taken to hospital after competing in the murky waters.

https://www.thetimes.com/sport/olympics/article/second-olymp...

[+] yread|8 months ago|reply
It seems neither of them were clearly linked to the river? The articles on this guy were kinda clickbaity saying he "was rushed to the hospital" when he tweeted that he rushed to the hospital because of the stomach bug
[+] layer8|8 months ago|reply
Meanwhile:

> Paris officials say they have taken several measures to ensure swimmers can safely enjoy the long-anticipated reopening, including daily water pollution testing and implementing a swim test for bathers. The water quality is "exceptional", said Marc Guillaume, the prefect for the Ile-de-France region that includes Paris. "We are monitoring two bacteria, E. coli and enterococci, and for one we are ten times below the thresholds and for the other more than 25 times below," he said.

[+] bambax|8 months ago|reply
People living in houseboats along the river have been swimming in the Seine forever. And every summer, young people, possibly a little drunk, jump into the water as a dare from bridges near Notre-Dame.

But yes, this is more mainstream and open to all so it's kind of big news.

[+] wdavidw|8 months ago|reply
I live on a houseboat just after paris in Meudon, facing Boulogne, we go paddle and swiming with the kids since they are 5 years old. The thing is to avoid going to the river the days after big rains. It is a very pleasant area along the Saint Germain Island (bras mort de l’Île Saint Germain)
[+] liotier|8 months ago|reply
> and every summer, young people, possibly a little drunk, jump into the water as a dare from bridges near Notre-Dame

After ending high school exams in 1993, we jumped into the Seine from Pont de Neuilly. I suppose this sort of antics have been going on since times immemorial and without counting bacteria beforehand... But I'm glad the river has cleaned up !

My first impression upon hitting the water: 1 - it is actually water (I expected mud !), 2 - wow, there is actually current and the shore goes by rather fast... No problems of any sort.

Anyway, it is fun - do it, and have a spotter to check for ships !

[+] cladopa|8 months ago|reply
when I was a kid, I swam in the Seine one day out of young stupidity and the next day I got hives on my skin and it was very itchy. I learned the lesson and luckily in a couple of days I was back to normal. Some of the people in my group(that swam with me) had longer lasting problems.
[+] forty|8 months ago|reply
The news is that it's now allowed / legal
[+] david927|8 months ago|reply
[+] dvh|8 months ago|reply
Bull sharks are known to swim 4000km inland (even 1100km in US).
[+] tmtvl|8 months ago|reply
Sharks only eat like once or twice a week and are very shy creatures, so not much to worry about. You're more likely to be killed by a coconut.
[+] alwa|8 months ago|reply
Oh my.

“Based on: An original idea”

I suppose so…

[+] avidphantasm|8 months ago|reply
You know that river was bad if they closed it in 1925.
[+] saltysaltysalty|8 months ago|reply
Commendable they’ve been able to remove the organic toxins, but I’m left wondering about PFAS, pesticides, microplastics etc?
[+] greatgib|8 months ago|reply
Already closed the day after (today) because of bad quality following a very light rain...

This is a political marketing stunt, not to be believed except for idiots that would really go to swim in this disgusting water not knowing about the consequences on themselves that they could expect...

Look at what happened to some swimmer athletes during the Olympic games...

[+] cm2187|8 months ago|reply
The water is "so clean" that you have mandatory showers before going in... But it's France, so how would you live without pointless regulations?
[+] seszett|8 months ago|reply
Isn't a shower before swimming in a public pool a universal thing? It's always required in France.
[+] jt2190|8 months ago|reply
People wear all sorts of oils and perfumes and deodorants that should be washed off before swimming.
[+] cdrini|8 months ago|reply
I was dubious so did a fact check, and it is indeed necessary! Not sure what the reasoning is, I wonder if it's some rule about public swimming which was originally created only for pools? Or maybe there are some wildlife concerns with certain lotions/etc getting in the water.

> Y a-t-il des douches ? > > Oui ! Chaque site de baignade propose des douches – obligatoires avant d’aller se baigner –, un accès à des toilettes, un poste de secours ainsi que des espaces pour s’asseoir et profiter du soleil.

https://www.paris.fr/pages/baignade-en-seine-toutes-les-ques...

[+] rixed|8 months ago|reply
I wonder if the water from those showers is drained directly in the river ?