[imetatroll]

This is simultaneously funny and sad. I wonder when alcoholism will get a front row seat during zoom meetings (or even IRL meetings). "Can't help it hick I'm an alcoholic".

I think a lot of societal change these days can be summarized by the idea that self-labeling is seen as transforming something into "everyone else's problem".

[watwut]

Modern treatments do actually treat alcoholism like a disease. The one that cant be cured, but can be managed.

It is trying to remove the shame from the equation, because it is not a productive emotion. It makes people postpone and avoid steps necessary for treatment.

[ViktorRay]

Yes but the issue here is that treatments exist for alcohol use disorder and that one cannot use the simple presence of alcohol use disorder as an excuse to dodge accountability.

And yet people are using things like "time blindness" as excuses.

[wat10000]

As the great philosopher Hedberg once said, alcoholism is the only disease you can get yelled at for having.

[dogman1050]

Mitch Hedberg was a genius.

[kingkongjaffa]

This is interesting point.

Western society has basically built a hyper capitalist system that creates individualistic consumers, but has failed to hold individuals accountable to minimum standards.

The bar has never been lower and we just sort of amble on as a lonely, isolated society so long as the stock market grows quarter to quarter.

[samdoesnothing]

No that is ridiculous. Stop blaming capitalism for every problem in the world, it just makes you look childish.

Especially when it comes to alcoholism. As if the soviet union was a bastion of soberness with a high bar or something.

[wolvesechoes]

It was created because those hyperindividual consumers will not enact any political change as it requires numbers and solidarity, something that our society of snowflakes finds disgusting. Everything else is a byproduct.