[beeb]

Wow the US really has it bad when it comes to home internet. In many European countries, you can get symmetric Gbit internet for 30-40 EUR (probably less in some places), and I haven't seen a data cap in forever.

[sleepydog]

The EU is better on average, but isn't universally great either. I pay 60 EUR for 200Mbit down/20Mbit up ADSL in Amsterdam, after my 6-month discount ran out. No fiber in my neighborhood yet. There's one gigabit provider in my neighborhood (Ziggo) and they have a bad reputation. For the same price I was getting FiOS gigabit in NYC.

[eythian]

I have 1.1Gb/100Mb on Ziggo in Amsterdam. I've had no real issues with them, at least for me the reputation is undeserved. I pay a bit more than that, but like €20 or so. They also give me a /57 or something which is nice (if a weird allocation, but I'm not going to use that many subnets anyway.)

I have had a fibre cable poking out of the footpath in front of my apartment for a year or two now, waiting for ODF or whoever to come and install it into the building.

[beeb]

That's crazy, 200M asymmetric for 60 EUR is robbery.

[jkl12]

Would it make you jealous if I tell you, that I get 10 Gbit symmetric fiber here in Switzerland (greater Zurich area) for roughly 80 USD/month with no data cap? And I can use my own router and could even go up to 25 Gbit if I want ;-) Oh, and did I mention no CGNAT and it comes with a static /48 IPv6 net?

[avidiax]

You are talking about init7, and they did have to fight tooth and nail and take it to court to get SwissCom to provide reasonable access to the fiber.

IIRC, Init7 explained that basically the internet wants to be fast, but ISPs want to spend lots of money on special equipment to slow down your internet so that they can sell speed tiers and data caps.

The US is much more captured that Switzerland, of course. Providers in the US get billions of dollars to expand their networks and provide service, and then don't provide the service, and nothing happens.

[Dylan16807]

To be honest, I'm significantly more envious of 1gig for $40 than 10gig for $80.

And my drives aren't fast enough for 25.

[kalleboo]

I'm paying under $40/mo for 10g symmetric here in southern Japan, that's including the extra charge for a public static IPv4 address (standard is a /56 IPv6 and tunneled CGNAT IPv4)

[beeb]

Not really, I also live in Switzerland and would have access to equivalent plans where I live :P

[HnUser12]

Depends on where in the US. Most populated places have inexpensive internet. Smaller towns have these issues because there's not much competition.

[gs17]

It's getting better here. Google Fiber is expanding to a lot of cities and their symmetric Gbit with no data cap is the equivalent of 60 EUR ($70).

[microtonal]

Here symmetric 4Gbit without a data cap (NL). Best of all, you can bring your own equipment. I have my Ubiquiti Gateway Max hooked up to fiber with a media converter (yes, the Gateway Max does PPPoE etc.).

My parents live in a small, countryside village. They have fiber at the same prices (including 4Gbit symmetric, though they are happy with a cheap 200Mbit subscription).

[radley]

Bay Area has sonic.net with unlimited 10Gb down & 1Gb up for only $40.

[rconti]

I don't think sonic has asymmetric internet anywhere. It used to be symmetric gig, now they're deploying symmetric 10gig. And the price is $49, although they just announced an increase to $59.

[amethyst]

*parts of the Bay Area. I'd say the majority of areas are still monopolized by Comcast, including my neighborhood of course.