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hinterlands | 7 months ago

It's about EDTA. It can be legitimately used to treat heavy metal poisoning, plus some other things. Some people (who are probably misguided) want to self-medicate. The FDA won't let you. Hence, drama.

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Metacelsus|7 months ago

yeah, because unless you legitimately have heavy metal poisoning, the side effects DEFINITELY aren't worth it

hinterlands|7 months ago

Probably, but the process doesn't work that way. The default is that you can't sell medication to people, period. Some pharmaceutical company applied to have a specific form of EDTA approved as a prescription drug, and that was that.

Separately from this, substances that meet the criteria of being "natural" can be sold as supplements as long as you don't claim they cure anything. EDTA is naturally-occurring and you can buy it as a supplement in the US, although the FDA has some beef with this, which I think is what the original remark might be alluding to.

EDTA is also a common food additive and a laboratory reagent, so people who want to use it can buy it easily, which makes the whole debate basically performance art.

Aloisius|7 months ago

Iron, copper, zinc, cobalt, manganese and selenium are "heavy metals."

Tuna-Fish|7 months ago

EDTA removes all metals. It's simply a compound that forms water-soluble complexes with metal ions, removing them from the body.

The way idiots kill their children with it is that among other metals, it removes calcium ions, and those are necessary for life, with low enough concentration in blood eventually resulting in cardiac arrest.

So said idiots have an autistic child, read junk online that tells them that "toxins" caused this, find the compound that is legitimately used to remove toxins, and administer enough to end the autism. By stopping their child's heart.

I don't particularly like the FDA, but restricting the availability of EDTA is not something I'd criticize.

grues-dinner|7 months ago

"Heavy metal" in general is a bad term, but especially when used as a proxy for toxin. There is no universal definition of heavy metal and there is no inherent connection to toxicity in any specific organism.

Then again, pretty much every metal is toxic at some relatively low body-mass concentration, even iron (which actually can and does kill people, especially when children eat adult iron supplements).

Even lovely unreactive gold does have compounds that are toxic.

rob74|7 months ago

Wow, that's an interesting rabbit hole: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_metals.

> Even in applications other than toxicity, no widely agreed criterion-based definition of a heavy metal exists. Reviews have recommended that it not be used. Different meanings may be attached to the term, depending on the context.

msgodel|7 months ago

Not allowing self medication was probably a mistake.