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bpbp-mango | 7 months ago

having kids is, by default, right and moral.

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Tadpole9181|7 months ago

Weird, I think having the right to bodily autonomy and freedom to control your own life is - by default - right and moral. And any attempt to mandate what others must or cannot do, outside of what harms those around them, is - by default - wrong and immoral.

Shockingly, declarations as if we are gods laying down "the one true morality" are not actually definitions of "the one true morality".

louwrentius|7 months ago

You made that up. It’s very easy to think of circumstances where it would be very immoral because of all the suffering the children will have to endure.

alexey-salmin|7 months ago

Moral norms evolve to ensure survival of it's bearers.

Basically under no circumstances it will be immoral for the population at large to have kids because such moral norms will quickly cease to exist. Eather because it's bearers cease to exist or more likely because they move on to more suitable moral norms.

I say "more likely" because humans obviously didn't get extinct despite bringing kids into the world of suffering for about a million years.