[codingminds]

If you consume a service that's free of charge, it's at least not reasonable to complain if there's an outage.

Like mentioned by other comments, do it on your own if you are not happy with the stability. Or just pay someone to provide it - like your ISP..

And TBH I trust my local ISP more than Google or CF. Not in availability, but it's covered by my local legislature. That's a huge difference - in a positive way.

[chii]

> it's covered by my local legislature

which might not be a good thing in some jurisdictions - see the porn block in the UK (it's done via dns iirc, and trivially bypassed with a third party dns like cloudflare's).

[codingminds]

Yeah it has its pros and cons, sadly.

So far I'm lucky and the only ban I'm aware of is on gambling. Which is fine for me personally.

But in a UK case I'd using a non local one as well.

[komali2]

> it's at least not reasonable to complain if there's an outage.

I don't think this is fair when discussing infrastructure. It's reasonable to complain about potholes, undrinkable tap water, long lines at the DMV, cracked (or nonexistent) sidewalks, etc. The internet is infrastructure and DNS resolution is a critical part of it. That it hasn't been nationalized doesn't change the fact that it's infrastructure (and access absolutely should be free) and therefore everyone should feel free to complain about it not working correctly.

"But you pay taxes for drinkable tap water," yes, and we paid taxes to make the internet work too. For some reason, some governments like the USA feel it to be a good idea to add a middle man to spend that tax money on, but, fine, we'll complain about the middle man then as well.

[gkbrk]

But you can just run a recursive resolver. Plenty of packages to install. The root DNS servers were not affected, so you would have been just fine.

DNS is infrastructure. But "Cloudflare Public Free DNS Resolver" is not, it's just a convenience and a product to collect data.

[delfinom]

>That it hasn't been nationalized doesn't change the fact that it's infrastructure (and access absolutely should be free) and therefore everyone should feel free to complain about it not working correctly.

>"But you pay taxes for drinkable tap water," yes, and we paid taxes to make the internet work too. For some reason, some governments like the USA feel it to be a good idea to add a middle man to spend that tax money on, but, fine, we'll complain about the middle man then as well.

You don't want DNS to be nationalized. Even the US would have half the internet banned by now.

[codingminds]

You are right infrastructure is important.

But opposite to tap water there are a lot of different free DNS resolvers that can be used.

And I don't see how my taxes funded CFs DNS service. But my ISP fee covers their DNS resolving setup. That's the reason why I wrote

> a service that's free of charge

Which CF is.