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44520297 | 7 months ago

Sure, but let’s remember that “working” is not the end-all, be-all of human existence. Some will stop working and care for an aging parent. Some will stop working and raise children. Some will stop working and make art. We have the opportunity to maximize human flourishing. Let’s not mistake where we’ve been for where we’re going.

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bluefirebrand|7 months ago

Many will simply stop working and simply rot

We saw plenty of it during COVID, people were off work and had basic income and such taken care of. They chose to just sit and do nothing

Some people started streaming or content creating or doing art at home or whatever

Most people just rotted. They sat and watched shows and movies and goofed around online

zuminator|7 months ago

Assuming both people are obtaining the same level of enjoyment, why is goofing around online considered "rotting" compared with streaming and doing art at home? I'm not trying to knock hobbies, but I think being alive and content is its own reward, even if the person is lacking a résumé of daily achievements to rattle off at dinner parties.

xboxnolifes|7 months ago

> They chose to just sit and do nothing

Well, there was some bias in the fact that it was a global pandemic with most in-person things not being available or significantly worsened.

44520297|7 months ago

The human body is simultaneously decaying and regenerating constantly, but calling it "rotting" mischaracterizes the process. About 330 billion cells are replaced daily, equivalent to about 1 percent of all our cells.

There is nothing particular to labor that changes this, people age at about the same rate whether they are engaged in "working" or not.

AngryData|7 months ago

You are surprised that people stayed at home during a pandemic?

pxc|7 months ago

Huh? Everyone I knew either worked during that time or was looking for work after getting laid off. (And the vast majority were still working.)

> had basic income and such taken care of

Huh? The COVID checks weren't that regular and didn't cover that much. You mean collecting unemployment, which also requires proving that you're looking for work?

LadyCailin|7 months ago

I think it’s totally fair to ask who is supposed to pay for that. I don’t want the guy who grows the food I eat to stop and go paint, I like eating more than I like him painting. There are plenty of jobs that aren’t fulfilling in the slightest, they are just a means to a paycheck, but are absolutely vital to society. And if those people quit to go make art, we’re all screwed. I don’t think that’s an unfair ask to have a comprehensive answer to.

zuminator|7 months ago

If those jobs are really absolutely vital, in a basic income regime they would be well paying enough to entice people to earn the extra disposable income.

appreciatorBus|7 months ago

Who picks up the garbage, who works all day in the solar panel factory, and works in the fields while you are making art?

Ofc it's possible for our world to be much better than today for all of us, but it's also possible for it to be much, much worse.

44520297|7 months ago

You are writing in the comments section of a website devoted to the discussion of companies and technologies that have changed the entire world. Technologies that, many suppose, will change the entire nature of labor, specifically.

And yet you ask, "but how will we maintain the world as it is today?"

Invent a better tomorrow. That's what you're here for.

skeeter2020|7 months ago

>> Some will stop working and make art

Why do some people get to decide they're going to do this? Why do I have to pay for it?